Day 2, at Wellington Park hotel Use case: in the data stream from a gravitational-wave detector, find transients due to stellar collapses, merging neutron stars etc. 1. There is a library of theoretical shapes for the signals of interesting events. Use this to make matched filter-kernels to search the data stream. 2. Find and record promising events. 2a. Possibly alert other observatories for follow-up, if events are found in real time. 3. Identify source in catalogues of other observatory. 4. Get masses, spins of stars involved. 5. Correlate with other wavebands. 5a. Correlate with other known recent events, e.g. gamma-ray bursts. Notes: - There are many models to be used as the matched filter, so many seraches need to be run, possibly in parallel. This could be done on a compute grid, but is a continuous process so is not suited to a shared grid. - The search area for identifying the source is around a square degree. - Possible cross-identifications can be galaxies out to ~1Gpc, so there is a vast amount of searching to do. This may need the data grid. - Parameters of the event come from the best-matching model. - The best chance of matches is from gamma-ray bursts, posibly from SWIFT data. - Chance of reliable, serendipitous matches is tiny; a hopeful search of all catalogues may not be useful. Interesting point: RGM doesn't want any compute grid. But many use cases may reveal a real need for one. Data policy and curation ------------------------ PPARC policy is that Astrogrid doesn't fund data centres. Archives do not have guaranteed long-term funding. ESA archives ditto. Publishers of electronic journal don't want long-term maintence load of their archives. Data are fragile. Lifetime ~ 5years. PPARC has no data policy, no legal obligation to curation. Problem with readying old archives for transparent usage on grid: tension between safe access for average users (who need not to be tricked by subtle problems of quality) and greater data volume for power users who can deal with tricks and traps. David Giaretta: first need is for a policy on curation. Metadata -------- Francoise Genova: data centres have crucial role in _collaborating_ to define metadata. It would be bad to let single institutions to define their own metadata. Talks between data centres are more important than community consultation. BUT commnity input is also important to define requirements. Validation: needs to be done "close to the knowledge". That may mean at data source, not at data centre. Other ----- PPARC will have an AO for grad students for grid work around the end of February. Irish computational grid: 3 nodes in Eire running by end of March; may add a node in Armagh.